John Dickson has an undeceptions podcast with historian, Tom Holland, who has written, Dominion: The making of the Western Mind. The popular perception is that "Christianity thrives on ignorance, sunk us all into the dark ages, and has resisted human rights and equality for most of its 1500 year reign" so we ask, "What have the Christians ever done for us?" Although Holland is not a believing Christian, he reckons "many of us have things completely back to front. It's Christianity," he insists, "that gave us many of the secular humanitarian ideals we hold so dear."